back to article UK gov mulls prison for those employing illegal immigrants

The UK government is considering increasing fines and introducing prison sentences to encourage employers to act as immigration police on their own staff. The Home Office published a consultation paper (21 page pdf) on its plans today, inviting comment on its proposed system of penalties. The penalties were attached to a …

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Anonymous Coward

Way to go

Let's make those pesky illegals as exploitable as possible!

What happens if the cunning little blighters use forged id? Do all employers have to become id experts? Of course not, once everyone's got a new unforgeable personal id card there'll be no problem. And, as an added bonus, the government will know exactly where everyone's working all the time!

Oh well, at least we've got plenty of spare prison space available for all these new criminals.

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'Consultation'

Noun: a government process through which the electorate is informed of pre-determined policies whilst maintaining the facade that public input is a: requested, and b: going to change a damn thing.

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Anonymous Coward

Polish plumbers and Romanian Carpenters are exempt

Of course EU citizens are exempt from this.

"The Identity and Passport Service (IPS) will be running a six-month trial under which employers can register as agents entitled to make checks of immigration status and the validity of passports."

And of course the right of an EU citizen stems from him being an EU citizen, not his paperwork. Hence that check is worthless too. But then they know this because they say so here in section 1.1:

"to tackle illegal working by nationals of countries outside the European Economic Area."

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Anonymous Coward

Yeyy Police State

So employers would be obliged to check the immigration status of ALL its employees so there can be no hint of racialism.

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Ha!

And obviously the IPS will be paying for additional time and expense incurred by those employers who routinely employ immigrant workers?

Quite aside from the whole telephone check only actually validating that the *documents* are valid, rather than that the documents are valid and in the possession of the proper owner.

But wait! The new voluntary ID cards will give employers the means to check that Boris is actually who he says he is. Trust me, I'm a politician.

Pffffffffffffffffffthtp!

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Anonymous Coward

This doesn't go nearly too far enough

Sir:

Can we also introduce legislation to fine those who employ the children of illegal immigrants? I didn't get a free ride from taxpayers in my free education, free healthcare, free dental care, free council services, etc to let others benefit from MY earnings - kick them out!

Also, I heard from listeners of Radio 2 a few evenings ago that apparently an illegal immigrant who steals a bike should be sent back to his/her country of origin no matter how badly he/she will be treated back there. I would again say that we should go further. Rather than send them back, why not simply save money and carry out their fate in England? So Nigerians can pay to educate doctors (who then will leave to help in the rest of England) and then be executed, Somalians can choose to be shot at by other Somalians, Ethiopians or the US, and most other people can just go to third world prison replicas. The cost of maintaining such replicas high per person, but thankfully this cannot be said for the life expectancy.

My main motivation for these propositions - which some would say are extreme - is that I wish to buy myself an off-road vehicle to drive around town in. The sub-1% of my taxes that some "illegals" might consume (if not balanced against the useful work I hear some others do) is not allowing me (as a TRUE citizen of a first world nation) to purchase such a magnificent vehicle.

I await your response with eagerness. My accelerator foot wants to leave a large carbon footprint!

Yours

Robbie Smith-Brown (Mr)

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Why stop at immigration checks?

Why not outsource the whole problem.. erm I mean program.. to employers.

Fine and imprison any employer that doesn't

1/Perform adequate DNA tests to verify the authenticity of their claims that they're white.. erm I mean British..

2/Fine each individual one month's salary (to be forwarded to the Government)

3/Export each illegal back to their home country; or torture, kill and bury them depending on costs involved.

Now the carrot..

4/Give employers who export the most illegals per year some sort of award, say an honorary lifetime membership to the National Front.

5/Give employers scalable tax breaks depending on the numbers of illegals they remove on behalf of the British legal system.

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Anonymous Coward

This won't go through

It's just another playground pleaser for Sun and Mail readers. The whole point of tolerating illegal immigrants is to maintain a healthy supply of slaves for unscrupulous employers. This will just serve to enhance the slaves' gratitude for employment. And of course, to feed the hunger of those whose only pleasure in life is to bray for the blood of the weak and marginilised.

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Anonymous Coward

The real plan....

As the government does not have a clue to how many illegal immigrants are in the country, it seems that us Hard Working Tax Paying citizens now have the task of helping the government count those who are not in this country legally.

My jury is out on the immigrant thing. I do not mind people from other countries coming to Britian if they get a work permit, work hard, settle down and pay taxes. However on the flip side, they are taking jobs from qualified (not saying the immigrants are not qualified) British Citizens for less money which means more British proessionals are not finding work.

Also what will happen to the illegal immigrants when caught, we have no prision space left and it takes a while for them to be (if not against their human rights) deported. Who pays for this, all tax payers...........

Don't get me started on the potentail terrorist (I know that the vast majority of all immigrants are legit are are here for a good reason) issue we may have.....

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Yet another excuse ...

... for a backdoor implementation if ID cards for all. After all, if an employer asks someone for ID, at the moment they can say "I'm a UK citizen, I don't need an ID" - end of story.

So how long before it's announced that such a loophole is making the system break down and the ONLY way it can be fixed is to tag, err issue cards, to everyone ?

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Papers pleaze !!

Ve hav vays of making you vork you know!

Ve vill ensure all citizens are ze good citizens and that ze salut ze fatherland in ze proper fashion.

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